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Hi Alison. Welcome to!

Hello. Need a red bull? :-D TIV 11:36, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
Thanks, Emperor. And hey, Johnny, figured you'd be here. Here to edit or for the lulz, then? - Alison 12:51, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
To edit... i tend to respect wikis which aren't messy and overcrowded, unlike the english wikipedia. TIV 13:52, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
That why you vandalise the Celtic language ones, then? :-D - Alison 13:55, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
Well, many proxies aren't blocked there! That's a nice excuse to vandalize :-D TIV 14:02, 14 July 2008 (EDT)


I had been following the recent changes here and nobody had posted much for ages, but suddenly everyone is talking to you. Who are you? Why are you visiting's mediawiki place?

Nobody much uses this. I think that their PmWiki is the main one. I just fiddle around writing Wikipedia Review's history and that's about it. Other than a bit of vandalism, nobody else seems to do much here.

If you have the power to, you could look at my user page here too.

Bye. Blissyu2 09:11, 15 July 2008 (EDT)

Which IP address is that?

I have only ever used Internode. Blissyu2 03:59, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

  • You've used Internode and others :p - Alison 04:02, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
    • Oh really? And you have proof of this? Why not show it? Or, wait, is this what Somey told you? The ever reliable person who stole Wikipedia Review, lied about it, and insisted that all of the screen shots were fake? You are a liar and a cheat. Blissyu2 04:59, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
La la la - you're a funny guy. Do you look under your bed each night to see if Somey might be there? - Alison 05:12, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
And the talk page is even more lulzy - Alison 05:13, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

A sort of community discussion board

I think that there are enough participants and issues on this site that it would be worthwhile to discuss them. Please weigh in at Encyc:Community Portal. //One 01:14, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

C---- S------

Hi Alison. Please shed some light on this C---- S------ thing. I feel as though I'm dreadfully ignorant. Duke of Puke 21:52, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

DoP, will do, soon as I can catch my breath here. The whole story is still breaking, but check in at WR here for running updates. You seem to have the most of it there, but note the contribs from his a/c over on enwiki. The guy had mentioned it over two years ago, so he's very much the real deal. Also, Proab is usually spot-on on this stuff and I expect there will be a flood of info really soon. BTW, myself and another admin deleted all the dubious images from Commons. Thread here. Ok, ttyl - Alison 21:57, 5 September 2008 (EDT)


Can you do a checkuser to see if there are any active acounts with the IP address If so, it might be Kimberly Ashton, or if there are any old accounts (which may be Kimberly Ashton's old accounts). If any, please tell me. Jonas Rand 03:56, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

Why? That's a dynamic DSL IP that traces to Everett, Washington. It's going to be well-recycled by now - Alison 04:00, 10 September 2008 (EDT)
Oh, dynamic. I don't know how to check, but I thought it was blocked for a year, which means, either the blocking admin didn't know how to check (or didn't check) whether the IP was static, or that the IP was static. Jonas Rand 04:03, 10 September 2008 (EDT)
Well, the block appears to have run out over a year ago but there have been no anon contribs in nearly two years - Alison 04:08, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

OK.Jonas Rand 04:24, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

Miranda said Jonas is a sock of Encyclopedist

Come on, Miranda can't even find her own ass. Keilana 10:39, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

Kimberly Ashton

Archer7 says I'm obsessive. Do you agree as far as this article goes? Jonas Rand 17:34, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

Yes, I do. I'm not sure what your interest is in that case, but it's really stone-age now ... And listen carefully to JtV. He's one of the biggest enwiki trolls and impersonators, so if he's says it's not 'pedist or Amorrow, it's not. I can also guarantee you it's not Amorrow. No possible way - Alison 17:40, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
Erm.. what? Listen to JTV...I know KA is not amorrow...but..? Jonas Rand 17:45, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
But what? Listen to the sockpuppeteer. He's trying to tell you the background, and he's spot-on with the facts on this one - Alison 17:49, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

Oh. Jonas Rand 17:51, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

i'm not obsessed. I could create an article just as long about AE & friends on Simple. Jonas Rand 00:26, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
Your call. I sure don't care. Be my guest :) Just ask yourself why you're doing it ... - Alison 00:28, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
To inform users about the abusive user. The long term abuse pages are not considered obsessive, why should this? I eventually want my pages exported to Wikipedia. For now, I'll just do it here. Jonas Rand 00:49, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

No, it has nothing to do with that. Jonas Rand 00:56, 13 September 2008 (EDT)


For reverting the obvious ego stroking, since finding this place I've found that there's a whole bunch of articles that suffer from the same problem and need addressing. Also, although I'm a member of The Jets, I just wanted to say that you're one of my favorite members of The Sharks... - Pennywise 07:23, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

Hey, thanks for that ... I think :) You guys aren't supposed to like TOW admins. BTW, I've a few accounts 'over there' and have had for quite some time. Here's one for starters ;) I'm not sure what the deal is with Blissy - I originally came here to fix some of his more delirious edits - but I'm sticking around here for the lulz. Jonas talking to three different socks of JtV, Blissy going off the deep-end, Emperor socking his own wiki? This is awesome stuff! - Alison 04:09, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
Yeah, the deal with Blissy was one of the reasons I opened an account over here as well. Reading most of the articles he's written over here, it's very clear that the guy has problems with coping with Narcissism. As for ED hating WP, it's generally only editors/admins who firmly believe that the Internet Is Serious Business the end up on the ED radar - Of our most vocal criticisms of WP editors, MONGO is an e-nemy due to him being a toothless pitbull with thin skin, Sceptre because he's a fail-troll with unwarranted self-importance... well you get the picture. Pennywise 05:19, 18 September 2008 (EDT)


Love the userpage. It's quite accurate. There's Blissy, who spews drivel, and then there's people like me and you, who waste our time cleaning it up. I don't even know why really; this place doesn't show up highly on Google. It's just kind of irritating to have lies out there, you know? Naerii 14:14, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

Yah. I feel pretty-much the same, but I'm not stressing on it in the slightest. I predict changes in Blissypedia in the coming future, oh yeah - Alison 04:10, 18 September 2008 (EDT)

Please stop

So far, you have made 3 constructive edits, and the vast majority of your edits have been inserting lies and removing truth, so as to troll the site and destroy useful content. Please can you move on and start making constructive edits. You have had 100s of edits here, and have yet to do anything that helps this site. Why can't you just leave things alone and stop with the superior ignorant attitude? You know what is really going on, but feign ignorance, so stop trolling please. I gather that you are over 5 years old, and it is really tiring. You obviously never went to law school with the kind of stupid legal suggestions you are making too. Blissyu2 05:34, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Blissy - look at the timeline. You brought me here with your lying about me (5th of August / 1). As long as you keep bringing up my name, I'll keep correcting you. It's that simple, so you'd better get used to it and start dealing. Your recent tirade; "Alison is a troll" is a classic example of that. Go read it over again to understand how off-the wall you are. I'm not here to focus on you (hint: it's not all about you), I'm here to defend myself and maybe get some useful stuff done, too. I don't give a rodent's ripe patootie for your opinions or whatever butthurt nonsense you are imagining of late - so long as you leave me the hell alone. Feel free to make an enemy of me if you like, that's your call and there's little I can do about that, but I will fight back and if that makes your life just a weency bit miserable, well ... tough shit. Dem's the breaks, kiddo - 05:57, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
Oh, and what was that about not knowing the law? Cop on - Alison 05:59, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
HEY "BLISSY" - how about an actual answer to the above timeline, eh?? WHY ARE YOU IGNORING THIS??? - Alison 00:27, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Here you go, troll, some flame bait

Yes indeed, I was Dyinghappy, with a point. WP:POINT violation! Call the police! I do so wish that you were more intelligent and had been honest about the only possible way that you could have discovered it (because Somey told you). Since you have embedded thousand of lies upon lies, its time to call your bluff, and expose you for the liar you are. Blissyu2 10:24, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Nice one, Blissy. You've decided that your lies don't carry on this forum any more, so you've taken them somewhere that people cannot refute it and show you for the lying drama queen that you are. What a coward!
Either way, you've taken your silly war off this forum and somewhere completely different. Now the fun starts.
Thanks for the laugh, Blissy. You're awesome!! - Alison 10:46, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
Oh, and "Alison obviously got the information from Somey, but refused to say it." - WRONG!!! :) - Alison 10:48, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
It's not hard to pick out your sockpuppets, seeing that they all have the same writers voice ans the names you use for your accounts leave a trail back to a certain "Meredith" person. Edward Nigma you are not! WikiWoo 13:16, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Until you post some apologies, forget it, you have been despicable





No more to read.

Lie all you like, no more to read.

You are disgusting. Blissyu2 12:32, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Are you trying to blackmail me? Screw you!! - Alison 13:09, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
I think EOF = "end of file" (i.e. no more data to read). Probably not blackmail :P Naerii 15:29, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
Awwww :( -Alison 15:35, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
I know, actual blackmail would be so much more fun. However, it would imply that he actually has something to blackmail you with... out with it Alison! Hang on, I bet I can guess. All along you've been making out you're being ordered about by Somey, but actually, you're in league with gold_heart, who is an agent for the KGB working to cause fear, uncertainty and doubt amongst the multitudes of CIA agents at WR. It all makes sense - you're here to antagonise blissy so that he writes even more deranged stuff about WR'ers, making it look like you support them, all the while covering up your actual motives in trying to break their ranks! Amirite or amirite? All that arguing you two do is just a cover. Man, this conspiracy only gets deeper. Naerii 15:54, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Please stop the libel

Please allow the GH article to exist. It is about Poetlister's internet alias and also about the libel that is mentioned in relation to me. It is important on 2 counts. Deleting it encourages libel against me.

Please do not make any further changes to the Blissyu2 article on this site. You are inserting lies. As stated previously, you can go to Encyclopaedia Dramatica and add lies in there.

Please stop referring to this as "Blissypedia". You are using this as justification to run a major smear campaign against me. It is not fair.

Generally, please stop smearing my name. Go do something constructive with your time.

By all means improve the GH article, and make it even clearer that it is about Poetlister's internet alias and NOT about the real person. But do not delete it, please. Deleting it is encouraging libel against me, because Proabviouc's Google docs, at least the section relating to GH, falsely claims that I created the Names Database bit and hence the identity. This is an outright lie, as I have proven in the article.

You are doing illegal things here, Alison. If you insist on doing illegal things, do them on your own web page, where you can uniquely take responsibility for them, or do them on Encyclopaedia Dramatica, where people won't take you seriously. Please do not do them here. Blissyu2 00:09, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

NO. I use my real name here. Who the hell is "Blissy"??? G.H is that woman's real name. Blissyu2/Zordrac/Dyinghappy is not your real name. Quit with the libel nonsense. Go sue someone or shut up about it. And quit smearing my good, and very real, name - Alison 00:16, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

My ban on enwiki

Can you please unprotect my talk page so that I can post an appeal? Jonas Rand 13:14, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

Of course :) Can you point me to your account over there and I'll do it immediately? - Alison 13:43, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

User:Ionas68224 Jonas Rand 15:09, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

Done - best of luck with that. I'll keep watch - Alison 15:13, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

Please stop

Please stop doing things that could possibly cause damage to Blissyu2. I have communicated with him about this. You need to be more willing to negotiate. The GH article is for Blissyu2 to defend against libel by Proabivouac, lies that state that Blissyu2 created the Names Database page. It contains no information about the real H, if such a person exists, and it won't be detrimental to her. Jonas Rand 18:39, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Absolutely not!! Who is this "Blissyu2" person you talk about? That is a pseudonym; a pseudonym someone is using to hide behind. Someone who created attack articles on me, both here and on ED. The ED experience didn't go too well, but we'll see where he goes with it. Unlike "Blissyu2", I do use my real name on here, a name he chooses to abuse and defame where and when he can. The same for GH. His sole interest in this stranger is to use her identity for his own paranoid games. I've no idea if she's a RL person or not; Proab says likely not, FT2 says yes, so we cannot take that chance.
To put it bluntly, sir, "Blissyu2" is a fucking hypocrite of the highest order. He whines and pules about 'defamation' of this pseudonym of his whilst sticking the knife into both GH, and myself. He doesn't give a damn about anyone else other than himself and as long as he brings this pathetic 'war' to me, I sure as hell will bring it to him.
I'm generally considered one of the kinder and fairer TOW admins but this freak pushes all my bad buttons. So on we go - Alison 22:43, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
um...where has he defamed you? Blissyu2, if his real name is connected with the pseudonym, might get associated with some things that his workmates would believe, and he has been through some real defamation, something that actually affected his life. So please don't risk him going through this again. It isn't "defaming a pseudonym", when somebody tells a lie (that he set up the Names Database page) that may make people believe that he was in on the set-up.
As far as whether GH is a real person, she is. Unless there the three documents regarding the UK that cite statistics provided by a GH are fabricated, such a person exists. However, the article contains no information, defamatory or not, about GH, so there should be no problems as far as privacy goes.
By the way, what is TOW? I've heard it used to mean Wikipedia, mostly on Encyclopedia Dramatica, but don't know what the acronym stands for.
Jonas Rand 23:29, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
Blissy started this fun. He can damn well finish it. It's that simple. He wrote articles on me here and when I tried to address that, he went ballistic. He threatened me, bullied me, called me all sorts of things, cajoled Emperor to have me banned (four times!), etc, etc. He's a fucking hypocrite and an abuser and as long as he keeps this campaign up against me, I'm not stopping. It's that simple. In fact, I've barely started here, and I will not let go so long as that fool persists. And if he has anything to say to me, he can come here and tell me himself instead of sending you along.
TOW, by the way is The Other Wiki, aka Wikipedia - Alison 00:05, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

I wasn't sent along, I understood him after I asked for an explanation. You are being unwilling, and your motives are destructive. You're basically not being sensible, reasonable, and negotiable, but instead being vengeant and bullying him. And you never said you weren't recruiting socks, that was probably Naerii/Lolmann. I was wondering, "why all the animosity". What harm could the article possibly cause G? Jonas Rand 00:33, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Let's get to basics; why did he create an article about me here and fill it with lies. He lied about the 'Dyinghappy' account, admitted it in his blog article attacking me again (now baleeted), and now doesn't give a damn. I'm being perfectly sensible here, as there appears to be very little that can get through to him; as long as he keeps trying to damage me, I'll hit back. And hard. Are my motives destructive? They weren't when I got here, but he's never let up. Are they now? Highly likely, yes. As he ups the anté, so do I. He's decided (not me) to bring this inane dispute to ED, and I sure as hell will see him there. Every. Step. Of. The way. He needs to back off and leave me the hell alone because until he stops that shite, I sure don't. Be sure and pass that on, wontcha - Alison 00:40, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Blissyu2, Alison, quit acting immature. Resolve your disputes and make an effort to understand one another instead of fighting like a bunch of babies. "He started it", "she's an evil bitch" "he's a liar", "he's a fucking hypocrite", etc. Quit carrying on and act like reasonable people. I'm sure you'll all condemn me for siding with the enemy. Jonas Rand 01:06, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

You're absolutely right, Jonas. If Blissyu2 wants to show up and discuss the matter like an adult, I'll listen and I'll negotiate with the guy. If he wants to keep behaving like he is, then it's business as usual. He's not exactly known for being reasonable, and has gone off the deep-end with countless others. As a TOW admin, I spend my time being reasonable and balanced and I attempt to deal and negotiate my way around an average day on WP. Here, however, I'm just some editor and things can be very different. Let's see him try to discuss this like an adult here, and we can decide what to do. The offer is there. If he doesn't, well ... - Alison 01:16, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

To Alison, Emperor: I think the GH article should be deleted (as the material is already on Google Docs) and so should the LJ links and Dyinghappy. Then you can stop being mean and harassing each other. Would that be a reasonable compromise? Jonas Rand 18:19, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

What about this article, in my RL name that Blissy2u created to damage me and my name? Everyone seems to have forgotten that he created that article and filled it with lies and abusive comments about me, and I wasn't even editing here.[1][2] Lies that he eventually admitted were so - Alison 02:29, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Comment from Nathan

I don't want to seem interfering but if I can offer my advice...

Alison, you think Blissy is wrong, right?
And Blissy, you think Alison is wrong, right?
Neither one of you is going to change your mind anytime soon, you have your own convictions and beliefs.
So I suggest there's not going to be a solution to this conflict, not anytime soon so the best thing to do is just ignore each other. Don't post anything to incite conflict or upset the other, just go on your merry way and do what you normally do and life goes on.

Take it from someone who has experience in not knowing when to ignore or let things drop.

Just a friendly thought. Nathan 21:08, 2 October 2008 (EDT)

That's actually sound advice, Nathan. Well, as I pointed out on ED two days ago, I have stopped and I apologized to Blissy (twice, for good measure). Since then, I've not gone near the guy other than to redact my name from something earlier. I've no idea what his take is on this because he's not given any indication. However, he needs to pause and think about where he wants to bring this, now that I've shown the initiative. It's over to him ... - Alison 22:12, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
I noticed that. I wanted to make sure both of you saw it :) It was getting a bit out of hand... Nathan 23:38, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
It's pretty messed up if an ED admin has to come over here and try to broker a ceasefire :) - Alison 01:04, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
I was thinking the same thing. ;) Nathan 01:21, 3 October 2008 (EDT)

Bridge Building

Herro Alison, for some reason I've either a decided to stick my nose in or got dragged in to this due to my talk page over at ED. Anyway could you please look over my proposal at [3] when you get a moment. IICATSII 03:52, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, check my contribs from just now - I blanked the lot. You're right :/ Let's call a halt to this mayhem. Life's too short - Alison 03:54, 30 September 2008 (EDT) (and hey, thanks for coming over to this war-torn wasteland)
Damn, bringing me over here was a bad idea. Now I feel I've got to write pages and pages of crap on topics that no one cares about to bulk things out! IICATSII 07:22, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
Lawl!! Emperor will be delighted - Alison 11:07, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
Excellent! Emperor 11:35, 3 October 2008 (EDT)

Troll blood

Is it true that you were born with troll blood, as Daniel Brandt claims? Emperor 04:25, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. When I cut myself, green blood oozes out. It can eat through steel! - Alison 04:25, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Fascinating. Don't worry, troll-blooded individuals are not persecuted here. Your kind can live in peace, each under their own bridge. This I declare as sole flounder. Emperor 04:42, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Yayy!!! A safe haven, a retirement home for aged trolls such as myself. Alas, my old legs aren't what they used to be and it's been ages since I've dragged a human to their doom - Alison 04:46, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


What does SALT stand for? Emperor 19:01, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

It's more of a Wikipedia term: salting the earth, WP:SALT, etc. It refers to creation-protection of a non-existent page. There are a number of 'bogus' pages with .php names, etc, which spambots have been known to hit. You've just seen one of them today, and there are others. I have a list here that wiki maintainers just hit up as a matter of course, just to make their job easier. It has zero impact on anyone else on the project, too - Alison 19:04, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh, ok. I kind of suspected but I didn't understand why it's always capitalized. Emperor 22:23, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Sysop Alison

Hi Alison. Thanks for offering to help out. I've temporarily disabled editing by IP addresses and registered users, in case anyone's wondering why all the commotion has died down. Emperor 04:51, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Emperor. Looks like you got most stuff cleaned up already. I'm going to do some pre-emptive prots (esp. move prots). Otherwise, you'll just have so much pain cleaning up in future (and it won't affect anyone editing at all) - Alison 04:53, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I think "move" is already taken care of, because it's been taken away from IP and registered users already. We have so few articles, if anyone really needs to move anything they can just ask. Emperor 04:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Move protection

Just curious, but why all the move protections? Regular users can't move. Emperor 05:10, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Force of habit, I guess :) If you ever end up allowing regular user moves, you won't have to go around prot'ing all the high-risk stuff. Some thing like templates can be hell if they're vandalized. If you like, I can stop now :)
No, fine with me. If you think we can handle it, maybe in a few weeks or months we'll allow regular users to move again. Emperor 05:17, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia's WR article promoting misunderstandings

I was looking on the net, and it seems that there are a lot of misunderstandings about WR now, worse than ever before. I saw one person saying that WR was founded by Selina, another saying that Somey founded it, another saying that Selina owned it, and so forth. I also saw in the WR article that it says that it "claims to have been created by Igor Alexander". That isn't in any dispute anywhere, so why is it "claims"? At least it says his name. Right now, there is no real dispute that it is owned by Somey (nobody is suggesting that it is owned by Selina). The dispute is whether Somey has any right to own it, as he stole it from me, and bought it from Selina, who never owned it in the first place. It reminds me of what happened with Ayer's Rock. Of course, once you start mentioning all of that, you start mentioning a lot of nasty things, which detract from the whole article, so it needs to be done carefully. Certainly, there is copious evidence that I owned it for 2 years, and was the owner as at when I was banned. Igor Alexander was also the owner as at when he was banned. There is no evidence that Selina ever owned it, although there is evidence that she published the first ever comment there and helped to set up the new site. In terms of ownership, the name Selina should not be mentioned at all. But Somey will try to convince you that my name shouldn't be mentioned at all lol. He is truth changing there, trying to suggest that Selina did the whole thing. If Selina did the whole thing, then how come Igor Alexander got banned, huh? Sorry, but that doesn't add up. If Selina did the whole thing, then why did 90% of the admins try to steal it from her in mid 2006 to give it back to its rightful owner (me)? Or, wait, did that not happen? Sorry, but there is evidence that Selina was never the rightful owner, or the legal owner for that matter. Blissyu2 20:04, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Oo-kay. If you need it changed on Wikipedia, you'll have to ask someone else as I'm basically retired from Wikipedia now. Check my userpage. All I'm doing is answering the odd oversight and checkuser request. Re. Somey: truth be known, I'm not in communication with Somey at all and a scan of my emails shows about 3 messages ever from the guy. Your dealings on WR were before my time and I've largely never commented on it as I honestly don't know what happened there. What I can tell you is that Daniel Brandt thinks Selina owns WR and is currently telling the world that she does. You might want to address that, too - Alison 20:13, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
If Selina owns WR now, then Somey "sold it back" to her. This may well have happened. Of course, my current theory is that Somey and Selina are the same person, in which case, yes, very much Selina owns WR. That could well be true. In that case, of course, what it means is that Selina, who never owned WR, sold it to herself, to her alternate identity, and then sold it back to her original identity. You can see just how deceitful that is, I am sure. I have always been convinced that Selina was female, but hey. Why, though, is Daniel Brandt trying to expose Selina? Did something happen? Perhaps Daniel Brandt is simply simplifying things anyway. Perhaps it is too long-winded to say "Major power player on WR who has at various times pretended to be owner, illegitimately took over the site" etc? Blissyu2 20:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Four questions

I have two questions for you, Alison. First, why did you say I was hiding behind a screen name, during an instance in which I was editing under my real name? I felt scared that someone (first I had no one in mind, then I definitely thought it was Somey) was telling you lies, especially when Somey told me that I was actually a 47-year-old woman. Second, what is the new evidence that has surfaced regarding Poetlister and GH? Is it that GH, a statistician, is really the person depicted as Poetlister (I did a google image search on the name, and it comes up with a photo that looks just like the person depicted in the Sandwich pic)? And how did Duke of Puke know, unless you secretly told him, if he doesn't have a WR account? And what was this all about? --Jonas R Defendthetruth 07:45, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Emperor banned you for a reason, so I'm going to have to ban you under this username as well for ban evasion. Don't take it personally. Nathan 07:58, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
We're here to share information, not to pester each other. I support Nathan's action. Emperor 14:33, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Encyclopedia Dramatica

Hi. You know who I am. I'm tinepoch, and I'm reluctant to identify myself and connect it that account. Over the past 2 or 3 days, I have been got attacked by some gang of Encyclopedia Dramatica members, including Crazyconan/Rob, Matty_whatever, Killhamster and Tok'la or however you spell it. As someone familiar with ED, can you give me any advice about removing the thread at the "Thizzlehat Junction Center" and my userpage. i just want to leave in peace.

Also, I'm tired of Slimvirgin's crap. I'm not thirsty for her kool aid and I'm sick of her being on WR. She's annoying and just wants to boss her way around things every where she goes like it is Wikipedia.

Oh yeah -- and Kato is right. Blissyu2 was never a holocaust denier, and he was getting defamed by Grace Note all over the internet. Slimvirgin should check up on her research before she goes spouting disinformation. Madetocontactyou 01:02, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Edits from you, then me, then you, then me, then User:Nathan were deleted, one with an edit summary that read something like "reply, and fuck you, rob", which got User:Emperor to sysop some new User:Cheka to block me for a day. then the site went down and the edits were flushed down the memory hole, presumably by the Cheka. Madetocontactyou 20:45, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Huh? What?! There have been no such edits to my userpage. I think I would know if there were. Nathan 20:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
  • Hi, Jonas Rand you need to contact me and stop being such a crybaby. --Zaiger 04:34, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Well sorry if you are offended, Brian. I just wanted to remove it and leave after that horrible treatment. I thought that was simple to do and did not infringe on anybody's rights, let alone anything like what the EDers did to me. This thankfully did not affect my real life, but by requesting my stuff be removed I did no harm to anybody. I don't see why this request can be completed. I'm being nice here, and if you start being an asshole like the rest of them were, I won't continue being nice to you. I will not be played around with. Jonas Madetocontactyou 04:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Congrats finding stuff that I don't keep secret, Nancy Drew. We have a no delete policy, sorry ^_^ --Zaiger 04:58, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
lol you gonna dox Jimbo Whales next? --Zaiger 05:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't see that on the ED:101 page. Oh, and some new idiot "Dysrhythmia" came along and joined in the gang up on me. He joined in February, which means he is new. How did he get to know my ethnic makeup and then comment on it calling me "NIGGER"? I feel he was just reacting based on the group think/bandwagon "principle", that because everyone else joins in on insulting me, that they should too. I'm not really interested in you so much as Dysrhythmia and Tok`ra.

And I do not plan on really editing ED, it was just that one request, which, since it isn't going to be answered anytime soon, I figured it should just be removed. And the only reason it can't be removed is so that people can have laughs at my expense and at my discontent, which is, apparently, what the site is all about. I am, of course, completely against that, I believe in having mutual fun and laughs. I really don't think that the LVMPD would be fond of comments like "oh btw I want to rape your underage asshole" from anonymous people, either.

Oh, and no. Jimbo's info is of no concern to me. Madetocontactyou 05:16, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Dude you are acting like a bitch, man up and stop being such a drama whore. --Zaiger 05:22, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

This is just how I am. I don't intentionally try to create drama, most of the time, and I am not trying to do it now. If you thought I was offended by words like "nigger", or "faggot", then you were mistaken and got the wrong impression of me, totally. I just think it shows ignorance, and I ignore it. The rape comment, while it does not offend me, is just sick, IMO, and I just said the LVMPD wouldn't like it too much.

Oh, and it just so happens that the comments aside from yours, this one, and my long one above added up to 1 KB (1024 bytes). Madetocontactyou 05:27, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Seriously, I am not responding to this bullshit again. Go call the internet police and tell them that someone somewhere in the world threatened to rape you on the internet. We will make sure we get a great e-lawyer for when we have to go to internet court for these heinous charged. If you would like to continue crying to me you can email me and I will revue your ban on encyclopediadramatica and if I decide to unban you then we can continue further. --Zaiger 05:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

This message was not even directed to you in the first place. You were the first one to come here and insult me. You also targeted me on ED first. If you are not part of the solution (i.e., at least taking me seriously and doing the right thing) then you are part of the problem. Good bye.

And it's 1:45 AM where you are, correct? Go to bed and quit bothering me. Madetocontactyou 05:45, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

That's enough of that. Banned again - Alison 05:49, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Annnnnd...he came back and was banned again (see my talk). This ban evading bullshit has to stop. Nathan 20:24, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Going to my myspace page that I link to in my livejournal, that is some mighty fine e-detective work of him if I do say so myself. <3alison --Zaiger 05:54, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Re Daniel Brandt

Yeah, I didn't know what to do with that page, really. Glad someone came along and made a better decision. Nathan 20:23, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Poetlister article

You protected the Poetlister article with a name still in it. Mistake? Emperor 12:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Oops - yes! Thanks for catching that, and sorry for missing it. Things were a little hectic ^_^ - Alison 14:59, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for all your cleanup work recently. Emperor 21:29, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

thanks you

thanks. yay. :) Wikademia

Interwiki map

I have nominated Encyc for inclusion on the Wikimedia Interwiki map.


Emperor 22:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Lol wut?

What's with the Baden Powell thing here?

  • It seems there are no policies etc. here against it (actually there is much worse that is kept without problems, like Brian Peppers for an obvious example) -If I am mistaken correct me.
  • It is not a BLP
  • The Encyc:About page actually talks of bringing articles from WP to here as a way to go

So what's the problem? --Cyclopia 18:02, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

  • Not only: when vandalized, you just reverted it. Wow. Make no mistake: I'd be ok with an article on Peppers, here or on WP or wherever, but that article looks terrible even (?) to my eyes. Alison, despite our differences I have a lot of sincere respect for you, but this odd difference of treatment makes me really wonder. --Cyclopia 23:01, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
    • Deleted. I wasn't even aware it was there. And yes, if you look at the dates, I reverted literally hundreds of article vandalisms that day - we'd a Grawp visitation - Alison 07:36, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
      • Ok, at least that's consistent. :) --Cyclopia 10:23, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

RE: Yo

Thanks for the welcome. Sorry for the late reply. --Michaeldsuarez 18:15, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

In-Target Probe

Thanks for the article! :) Auggie 18:18, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

  • You're welcome! It's a bit of an arcane topic, mind, and there aren't many people know/care about microprocessor R&D. Still, Encyc had it first :) - Alison 05:55, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


Gheo! Herbythime and NawlinWiki will be prosecuted. LOLZ Gridlock 17:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

  • It was the lolicon trolling wot tipped me off. Then I found the drum'n'bass link ;) Anyways - leaving this place in a few hours. Remind me to nuke my browser cache XD - Alison 17:16, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Time to archive?

Hi Alison,

I was reading through this talk page again (slow news day), and am getting a distinct rage vibe in some of the sections. It might seem scary for newcomers to Encyc. What do you think about archiving it and starting fresh? Auggie 13:52, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

  • It might also be time to require new registrants to read, review, and affirmatively click that they have read and understood the Policies and Practices of Encyc.Org, and sincerely agree to abide by them, to the best of their ability. Note that on NetKnowledge, new registrants must be personally interviewed to confirm they have read, understood, and agreed to the site's Community Agreement. Until they have done that, they can only edit talk pages, not main pages. And on NetKnowledge, two sponsors must vouch that a new registrant has indeed completed that orientation and induction process. Moreover, the two sponsors are obliged to coach and mentor those whom they have endorsed as responsible new members of the community. Since establishing that practice, we've never had to block or revert anyone. The site becomes collaborative and self-disciplined, and the need for policing all but vanishes. Moulton 14:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
NetKnowledge? How did I not know about this?
As far as endorsing or mentoring, I think that runs headlong into the "you can edit this page right now" philosophy. Unless it can be done "right now", are many people going to bother doing it? I don't think so. Auggie 15:57, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Instant editing is not an objective at NetKnowledge. Rather thoughtful and conscientious participation in a collaborative learning community is the objective. A number of well-known vandals, trolls, and pedophiles have turned up to register at NK and decided not to complete their registration once they became aware that the site not only had a Community Agreement, but that new participants would have to personally affirm their commitment to two endorsing sponsors. Moulton 16:11, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
At Encyc, instant editing is highly desired. I am thrilled when a reader suddenly turns into a writer. It's part of the wiki magic. Without that, it's just another content management system. Auggie 18:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Everything comes with a price or a payoff. In this case, the price you will be obliged to pay is the cost of being a policeman who has to keep watch to revert the nonsense, gibberish, and vandalism. Eventually, I reckon, that cost will outweigh the thrill you get when someone writes something that you have to review to see if it's a constructive contribution or a bid for negative attention. Moulton 19:11, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
The classical (Wikipedian) solution for that problem is to find individuals who enjoy playing policeman as a hobby. But I don't think it needs to come to that. Auggie 20:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
  • That just sets up a game, contest, or drama that gets old pretty fast. It's one of the reasons Alison got tired of being an Admin. Moulton 21:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Bada-bing! ^^^ This ^^^ - Alison 21:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
So, um, time to archive? Auggie 01:37, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
I believe Poetlister has a little 'archiving' of his own to do first. Let that happen (regardless of his email bleatings - I've seen them) and then we'll talk - Alison 02:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Ok. What about maybe starting with Chris S's name, as a gesture of good faith? Auggie 11:47, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

← Ok, done - Alison 14:05, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Auggie 14:28, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi Alison!

How are you doing? Thanks for taking care of all that spam. It's good to know that you're still stopping in once in a while. Auggie 12:24, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

  • Hi Emperor. Yah, I'm still about, but just nowhere near as active as I was - on any wiki, really. Life's way too much fun, and way too busy :) Hope all's well with you! - Alison 11:11, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


Just to let you know, I have abandoned Wikiversity.

Upon the strong advice of several experts, I have cut off all connections with Johnny, Darklama, Mike Umbricht, and their associates on Wikiversity.

For reasons that make no sense to me, they have constructed an inappropriately coercive culture (abusive bullying) that, to my mind, is anathema to the concept of collegial and congenial collaborative learning.

The project has frankly become too toxic for my sensibilities.

Or, to put it another way, my Hit Points just went negative, and there aren't any more Clerics left in the game to heal me.

Moulton 10:09, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm no expert, but my advice would be not to spend to much time on interpersonal conflicts. Seems like a waste of life. Auggie 13:25, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
  • The only way to avoid interpersonal conflicts is to avoid other persons. No matter where I go, some cockamamie antagonist pops up out of nowhere to block my way. Moulton 16:51, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
I know you don't think enough people read this place, but if you check Compete you can see we had a pretty decent month. Wikademia is also there for all your wiki educational needs. Emesee is a nice fellow and I can't imagine him trying to stand in your way. Auggie 18:19, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
  • My educational needs are to find the recipe for a functional collaborative learning community. Moulton 21:06, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Maybe you could play some golf and lay off the educational needs, which also removes a lot of conflict with people. People seem to think learning communities are way overrated, and the current structure of online activities are suited to provide maximum fun, dopamine rushes, recreative pursuits, and some easy bucks for the guy who runs the show, rather than typical serious paperwork and research. Without money and dopamine, there's nothing left but idealism, and where does that lead, for a solid creation of a learning community? 123 15:29, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
  • See The Good Show on RadioLab with Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich. Moulton 18:32, 16 March 2011 (UTC)


A few words from you might be beneficial. Moulton 08:47, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


Say hello to everyone at WR for me! ;) lololol

Maybe don't do that. Have you checkout the Wikademia wiki? What would you learn about or teach? Wikademia 07:21, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

  • Heyya!! I'm largely gone from WR these days, have to say :) As for Wikademia, I've not been there yet. I'm a qualified adult literacy tutor and have done some ESL training and training in dealing with students with dyslexia. Any use? I'm also an engineer by profession and have taught *NIX system programming and systems administration professionally (sub-contracted to Intel - LOL - back in the day). Long ol' story ... :) - Alison 07:28, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Cool. It seems useful. I am not sure what value contributing would give to you, though. No revenue sharing is really present right now. Maybe warm fuzzy feelings if the information might help someone in need. I'm banned from WR, I'm pretty positive. I think my account was actually disabled or deleted, because it would still login for a while, but now, not even that I don't think. Wikademia 07:32, 9 May 2011
  • W-R seems to have faded into the background, with relatively little progress in addressing the problem that Allie noted on her fourth anniversary as a WP Admin. Moulton 13:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Was that really my quote from back then? I don't remember (tho' I certainly agree with it :) ) - Alison 02:47, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes, that was your Facebook status comment on the occasion of your 4th Anniversary as an admin on WP. I don't know an easy way to index into old status messages to find the permalink, but here is my note for you when I created that animation segment. You might not have seen that, as I posted it on my wall, not yours, and I didn't use the feature to highlight your name. —Moulton 13:31, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Here is the permalink to where I first quoted you, back on March 22nd: Quote of the Day: On the occasion of her 4th Anniversary of becoming an Admin on Wikipedia, Alison Cassidy writes: "Wikipedia is like some evil cult (why does Catholicism come to mind?). Once you're initiated in the inner workings, they *never* let you leave alive."Moulton 14:15, 11 May 2011 (UTC)


Hello, Alison. Can you assist me in evading a permaban from Wikimedia? Wikipedia will never work. For the sake of posterity, checkuser Slimvirgin. --Words of a Mr. Trezon ([[User talk: Mr. Treason|call1]]) 14:35, 28 August 2011 (UTC)