User talk:Moulton/Grumble Mumble
Add topicI'm confident that this belongs somewhere, but does it belong in the main namespace of a wiki based encyclopedia like reference work? Wikademia 15:17, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- It wouldn't happen if it were under User:Moulton. But let's not kick Moulton while he's down. (I'm sure there's a song parody somewhere in that sentiment.)
- But yeah, Moulton's been pretty reasonable with it and might as well be grandfathered in, kind of a quirky Encyc-only thing. We should look at it as an asset. Auggie 23:30, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe they could be linked to from the main namespace to the Encyc namespace.... Wikademia 05:43, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Just a bit of history here. Auggie can confirm that he personally invited me to repost my song parodies here, after the W-R Mods began systematically baleting them. Had I not copied them here, they would have been lost to history and even lost to me. I can no longer read the 300 Club thread on W-R where the W-R Mods routinely buried these works (along with 90% of everything else I wrote on that site). Go take a look at the Moulton Thread in the 300 Club. Most of the material there was dumped into that inaccessible ghetto by Gomi, HerschelKrustofsky, and GlassBeadGame. You will note that WP has extensive coverage of popular culture. And much of popular culture is music. My musical stylings are admittedly atrocious. They have to be atrocious, because they are a response to atrocious behavior by those exercising power in online social media sites across the Wikisphere. However, if you prefer I port these pages over to NetKnowledge (and abandon my participation here), I can relieve you of the burden of having to deal with my continued existence in your placid life here.
- Say the word, and I'll be gone.
Say the word, I'll yank the song.
Say the word you're hinting at.
Have you heard, the word is "Scat!"
- Say the word, and I'll be gone.
- Moulton 12:02, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- No no no. You can stay. What I was clumsily alluding to and I think Wikademia was saying is that it's surprising to readers when they click on random page and get a Moulton song parody. And your songs are showing up in search engine results. I think that there's an easy technical way to prevent that, like moving them to User:Moulton/ instead of just plan Moulton/, but I'm not at all sure I want to do that.
- However I'm not too worked up about this issue. If it's only you doing it, I don't think it hurts Encyc, and it might even be seen as endearing by visitors who are looking for a site inhabited by humans and not blind rule-followers. If everyone did it, we might end up like Everything2, but that's a slippery slope argument and can easily be avoided by simply grandfathering you in. Auggie 15:07, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- In case it's not obvious, I don't want my published work to be ghettoized, baleeted, buried, fatwahed, pogrommed, extinguished, exterminated or otherwise annihilated. And if you are even so much as toying with that idea, then I want to save my work from being blotted out of existence or from being summarily removed from public visibility. Moulton 16:25, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- I hear you. You want everything to be exactly the way it is, visible to search engines and showing up with the random page button. Is that correct? Auggie 16:42, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Correct. Criticize it all you want, but as Paul McCartney would say, "Let it be." Moulton 17:02, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- I like to think that the people here are reasonably happy. There have been remarkably few complaints. Auggie 20:47, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- The most reliable way of minimizing discontent is to operate the site with mutually agreeable terms of engagement. Moulton 21:44, 8 October 2010 (UTC)